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Bugster2 wrote:Yet, every two weeks she has a cleaning crew that comes in a scrubs and cleans. God forbid if she had to do it herself. I would rather have the money and clean my own toilets.
I hate to clean -- always did. I mean I really HATE to clean I know what clean is and what it looks like, but I was never good at it. It would take me forever and I'd hardly get any of it accomplished. It never looked like it should given the time I'd spent cleaning. Now with my back, I'm not up to it. But I hate it so much that when I could find someone good, I always paid someone to do it for us. I'd rather go without a meal than clean; I'd live on bread and water for a week to have someone clean. It's just what I choose to spend money on.
We had a woman who had a cleaning service (Diane) (we knew her when she used to tend bar and wait tables years ago at a place we still occasionally go to) and they'd been cleaning for me for about 2 years. They really sucked and got worse as time passed but they were better than nothing, and didn't steal so I kept them. They also got the job done (or so they thought) quicker and quicker. Sometimes only one girl came (Nicole) but two were supposed to come, though people didn't work for Diane very long before they quit so then most of the time, Nicole came by herself again. When Diane was the second cleaner, the job was even worse. I paid them $80 each time and they came once every two weeks. But Diane didn't pay the girls very well -- not even half of the $80. They got less if there was only one of them than when two of them cleaned, which made no sense to me.
She called and "fired" us in late February, saying she had to cut down on her clients because yet another chick quit, leaving only herself and Nicole (and no one had a car but Diane so she had to drop them off and pick them up between the other jobs she was doing). I think we ticked off Nicole, though, as the owner always had way too many clients to handle so I suspect Nicole said she didn't want to come here anymore. Brian asked Nicole one day to turn the water off in the bathroom faucet after he listened to it run full blast for 5 minutes. She was in the bathroom but nowhere near the sink when he got up finally to look inside the bathroom. Then I recently called her back upstairs to dust something they'd missed and also asked her to come back upstairs to pick up some stuff that dropped behind the bedside table that I couldn't get to with my back -- which meant, of course, that they hadn't vacuumed very well as they skipped that area. She also hadn't bothered to empty an ashtray that someone had used. I'd spoken to her a month before and told her lots of table tops weren't being dusted and asked if she could please try to catch them all. She said "of course" but I guess she got ticked.
So I phoned this woman (Lynn, late 50s) who worked for Diane for a short time and was the only one who had a car besides Diane. I asked her if she could mow my overgrown lawn again and she did, and brings her own mower and trimmer. She'd also done a couple of odd jobs for me, like rehanging floor to ceiling drapes that Brian had accidentally pulled down when he pulled the rod off the wall opening the drapes (I love him dearly but he probably hadn't put the rod up securely to begin with). She also said she would clean for me. I remember thinking how she did extra stuff when she did come clean for Diane so I told her I would pay her $100 instead of $80. Well, she came yesterday and when I came home from the heart doctor, the house looked amazing. She came at 9:30 a.m. and Brian said she finished and left at 4 p.m.; she brought her own cleaning supplies including her vacuum, too. It was a lot of work to not only catch up from it not being cleaned in a while but having been cleaned so lousy for so long.
Nicole complained about Diane constantly and was always planning to quit and start her own service (no car to get around, though). She used to tell me some weird stuff that Diane wanted them to do re cleaning but Lynn told us more stuff. She told Brian and I that Diane was the one who told them to run the hot water faucet the minute they entered the bathroom or kitchen as it took to long to wait for it to get hot again so they were to just leave it on full blast! Lynn said she wouldn't do it but Nicole would (obviously). She also said Diane did something that she and Nicole refused to do, which grossed all three of us out. She cleaned (get ready!) the kitchen sink with the same rag she cleaned the outside of the toilet with. That's disgusting. I can't wait to see how much my water bill goes down, too, as it got so high when they were here. Now I know why -- we have a kitchen and 2-1/2 baths. I can just SEE the water wasted (hot, no less, emptying the hot water heater) in each of those 4 rooms while they cleaned each one. I never heard of something so stupid before.
I hope I run into Diane (I never have seen her in 2 years outside of my house or passing by in her car) so I can tell her how low my water bill is now and how my kitchen sink isn't cleaned with the toilet rag any longer. That ought to curl her hair to know that someone told me what she did. She used to tick me off as when SHE cleaned the kitchen, she would often SKIP cleaning the sink entirely. Who ever heard of such a thing? If we were here and downstairs to notice, we'd get her to come back (she'd be sitting in the car waiting for the other person to mop her way out the front door) and do it.
I'm tickled to have Lynn now and she's tickled to work for us again -- and is tickled to get the whole $100 for herself. I have tons of artwork on my walls (I don't covet jewelry but I've always coveted and spent my money on original art) and she dusted all the frames that the others hadn't done in ages. She'll clean the glass occasionally for me, too, as it doesn't need to be cleaned that often. I even had to ask Nicole recently to dust the freaking wrought iron headboard on my bed as I reached up there one night to try to pull myself up and my hand came back covered in dust. That's when I checked out the dust on the large framed acrylic hanging above my bed. There was tons of dust on the wide wood frame and even the face of the piece (it's not under glass) had dust woofies all over it. I wanted to fire them but Brian kept reminding me that they were better than nothing and luckily, Diane fired us! Seems like a lot of money I guess but we can't do it any longer and it's worth it to us to get it done, get it done well and get it done by someone who we can trust not to steal or go thru our things. We even find it difficult to change the linen on the king-size bed now so it's great to have someone else do it.
We can't fix anything either, Bug, so we have to hire and pay someone to fix anything that breaks. If we need something heavy moved now, we have to pay someone. I need some bags of potting soil that need to be brought up to my balcony; my brother wants me to wait until my nephew comes over to his house to eat dinner, as he lives less than 10 minutes from me. But by then, my plants will be dead. That's why I'm amazed by someone like Jimmy who can, as we always say, put an a$$ on a dog! [/quote
Well, I always have a dirty house. I rarely dust the top of picture frames unless I actually see the dust. I rarely move furniture because I can't do it. My sister's expect their cleaning women to move furniture and clean underneath. I think that is going too far. When I was first out of college I cleaned my sister's house to earn some money while looking for a job. It turned into a long term thing because I couldn't find work. I always had to clean up piles of dog $hit that their dog would deposit around the house (they never trained him not to). She had a tile floor in her kitchen and once she broke a bottle of hot sauce or catsup on the floor. She ignored the mess, left it to dry and had me clean it up. I also washed and ironed all of her husbands shirts and did their laundry. When I got too sick to do it anymore and quit, she had to pay another cleaner almost twice as much to do less work. When I found out I realized I had been used and abused. I have never forgiven her for that and I never will.
About the maid using the same rag that was used on the toilet in the kitchen sink: maybe (hopefully she was using cleanser and the bleach sterilized everything. I had a friend whose family had a live-in for years to clean and help cook. when my friend's father saw the maid use the same rag to clean the inside of the toilet being used to clean the bathroom water glass he almost passed out and the maid was kicked back to Mexico. I don't believe they ever had a live-in again.