My sister's kitchen

Can you ask for input from your food blog concerning the following:

My sister is remodeling a different home and has room for the following: a 48” range or possibly a 60” and 2 ovens. They do a lot of entertaining and with her current 48” range, she feels for her new remodel, she would like another oven or two. Here are her questions & she plans to use Wolf/Subzero products. She lives in Southern California

Plan to use Series M for electric wall oven

Plan to use Series M for electric steam oven — what are your thoughts about these?

Should she go dual fuel for the 48” or all gas (since she will have electric wall ovens)?

Is there any reason she should expand from a 48” to a 60” and delete an oven?

She currently has a 48” wolf dual fuel with a french cook top and said she hasn’t used the french cooktop nearly as much as she thought she would so she is thinking with this purchase of switching to 6 burners and one griddle.

Definitely dual fuel. Electric ovens cook more evenly.

As far as 48 vs 60... that’s a personal choice. With the 60she can get 2 full size ovens rather than the wall ovens does she need the extra burners. If she thinks she’ll use them, then go for the extra burners. I have 6 and have never needed more. I cook a lot and for big groups. The questions she’s asking are personal and she needs to evaluate for her personal experience and usage

No opinion here....mainly because as we downsized there is not a thought given to having bigger.

I don't envy her trying to decide what to do. I always second-guess myself to death....

bethk wrote:No opinion here....mainly because as we downsized there is not a thought given to having bigger.

I don't envy her trying to decide what to do.  I always second-guess myself to death....

She is second guessing for the umpteenth time. The reason, and the only reason she is thinking about some wall ovens is that she can get a steam oven whereas the $20,000 Wolf can't be had with this feature. I have no idea what you would use a steam oven for and I doubt that she really knows. I thought she had her mind made up weeks ago. She has a huge waterfront home that cost millions that is being remodeled inside and out for another million or so. I guess she wants what one would expect in a home of that caliber.

Steam ovens are perfect for bread bakers. If she doesn't bake bread....why bother.

JanaAZ wrote:Definitely dual fuel. Electric ovens cook more evenly.

As far as 48 vs 60... that’s a personal choice. With the 60she can get 2 full size ovens rather than the wall ovens  does she need the extra burners.  If she thinks she’ll use them, then go for the extra burners.  I have 6 and have never needed more. I cook a lot and for big groups. The questions she’s asking are personal and she needs to evaluate for her personal experience and usage

Great advice, Judy! Being older with a bad back, I'd stick a new 48" stove with six burners, as I'd rather have the two wall ovens to eliminate bending than go with the 60" to get the two full size ovens down below. Re the steam oven, even if she's thinking down the line to a possible resale, the steam oven is such a special animal that it might only appeal to one of those men/women who want EVERYTHING in their kitchen, and I usually laugh as they often don't even cook. One thing people don't think of is the intense heat when they get too big a stove or one that was made for a commercial kitchen. I know people who've had them pulled out for that very same reason. But oh boy, what fun to have that kind of money to play with.

I think she is looking at a Thermador or a Miele for the wall ovens. I know nothing about a steam oven but she says they keep things moist while baking. you can't brown with one unless it is also a convection oven.

beware of the thermador wall ovens. my sisterinlaw had nothing but problems with hers. idon't know details about the miele. I will say....make sure that you can get service on it. I previously had a bosch cooktop which I loved....but when I needed service, Bosch pulled their service from the Phoenix area and it was hard to get somebody to actually do the repair.

Thank you. I will tell her about the Thermador.